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What Neocons say when you're not around (or Taking a Conservative Cruise)

July 19th 2007 02:47
Johann Hari, writing for the Indepedant UK, published an astonishing article on AlterNet. She took a cruise sponsored by the National Review for conservatives and the conversatives that are even more conservative than conservatives.

Read the article!


It's shocking because most of us would never imagine that people would say things like this: hatred, fear, segregation, warmongering... it's all there.

Some choice quotes:

"The Muslims are breeding. Soon, they'll have the whole of Europe."

"Just take a couple of these anti-war people off to the gas chamber for treason to show, if you try to bring down America at a time of war, that's what you'll get."

"I went to Paris, and it was so lovely." Her face darkens: "But then you think - it's surrounded by Muslims."

"thank God for Fox News"

A Filipino waiter offers him a top-up of his wine, and he mock-whispers to me, "They all look the same! Can you tell them apart?"

"The coverage of this war is unbelievable. Even Fox News is unbelievable. You'd think we're the only ones dying. Enemy casualties aren't covered. We're doing an excellent job killing them."

As a visible minority, I'm never really privy to any of these sentiments... modern society is astonishingly 'politically correct', meaning that dark sentiments are hidden beneath the surface.

I hope that the article is objectively written and the quotes stand up within their context. This is an ugly side of America, and one that, perhaps, needs to be outed.

A quote for the road:

"The quality of an immigrant is inversely proportional to the distance travelled to get to the United States."

In other words: Latinos suck."

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Comment by Damo

July 19th 2007 05:18
They sound like a couple of bloggers high on themselves.


Comment by Ahmed

July 19th 2007 05:25
Actually I saw some pictures of the cruise, most were old redneck men and women. They don't tan, they sunburn.

I'm not surprised they say all that, most societies have these few individual a-holes, it's sad because the entire society is always defined by those few.

Though it's fun knowing I can scare a boat load of passengers simply by my complexion, makes me feel powerful

Here are the pics from the cruise: Really Long Link


Comment by Howard

July 19th 2007 14:15
The neo-cons are a phenomenon that seeks a dictatorship and a sort of "universal fascism". It can be confusing since, with all the red neck talk, it's not really "nationalism". The idea is to have little armies of mercenary assassins committing murder in "hi-tech" bands, all over the world. Human beings are mostly cattle, and we (the neo-cons think) can "cull the herd" when it seems necessary.

Comment by Cibbuano

July 19th 2007 22:36
It's a weird segment of American culture, the neocons, though I never would have expected their opinions to be so, well, hateful...

Comment by Howard

July 19th 2007 22:46
Why not? They got it directly from the British Empire and the French Synarchy (friends of Fascism). If you study the writings and life of Lord Bertrand Russell, (let's nuke Russia for world government, in 1946, etc) it makes more sense why the "left" has such a hard time dealing with this stuff. It is called "globalization", "the New Middle Ages", the "New Dark Age", the "Post-National World" but it is definitely not an American-centered phenomenon. In America, actually, is the main resistance to neo-cons.

Comment by Howard

July 20th 2007 01:06
Why not? They got it directly from the British Empire and the French Synarchy (friends of Fascism). If you study the writings and life of Lord Bertrand Russell, it makes more sense why the "left" has such a hard time dealing with this stuff. It is called "globalization", "the New Middle Ages", the "New Dark Age", the "Post-National World" but it is definitely not an American-centered phenomenon. In America, actually, is the main resistance to neo-cons.

Comment by Howard

July 20th 2007 01:06
Why not? They got it directly from the British Empire and the French Synarchy (friends of Fascism). If you study the writings and life of Lord Bertrand Russell, it makes more sense why the "left" has such a hard time dealing with this stuff. It is called "globalization", "the New Middle Ages", the "New Dark Age", the "Post-National World" but it is definitely not an American-centered phenomenon. In America, actually, is the main resistance to neo-cons.

Comment by Ahmed

July 20th 2007 03:40
If America is the main resistance to neo-cons why are so many neo-cons based in America?

Comment by Howard

July 20th 2007 04:25
Well, it goes back 200 years to the American Revolution. Basically, since then, some people have wanted to bring the US "back to mother"... which is what the neo-cons have been trying to do. You've probably read about key quacademics, like Prof. Leo Strauss, etc. It's called a deployment.

Comment by Ahmed

July 20th 2007 04:37
No doubt when the US was founded it was all about getting rid of the kind of thinking that has festered itself across the US. Though that was its original purpouse it hardly is that way anymore.

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