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Shepherd’s Pie Or Cottage Pie: What’s The Difference?

June 13th 2008 12:30
Shepherds Pie Cottage Pie Chef Recipe
I have asked this question of many people; qualified chefs, accomplished housewives, experienced grandmothers and, of course, my Mum. Some people think that there is no difference, but the clue is in the name.
What kind of meat is available to shepherds? The answer; shepherd’s pie is made with lamb or mutton while cottage pie is made using beef. Leftover roast meat was traditionally used but raw minced meat is also suitable.
In the following recipe and step by step pictures, I demonstrate how to make a cottage pie using raw minced beef. The method for shepherd’s pie is the same.
Shortcrust Pastry Shepherds Pie Shell homemade
I have used a shortcrust pastry shell for a top of the range cottage pie but a more rustic version can be made by lining a pie tin or casserole dish with sliced bread. Another alternative version comprises a layer of savoury mince topped with mashed potato without any base, a method reminiscent of Moussaka.
Shepherds Pie Cottage Pie Recipe Ingredients
Ingredients
1 Shortcrust pie shell
(See previous recipe for how to make one from scratch or just buy one from the shops)

Meat filling
450g Minced beef
1 Brown Onion
2 Garlic cloves
1 Grated carrot
1 Large mushroom
1 Bayleaf
100ml Tomato paste
1tblsp Gravy mix
20ml Worcestershire sauce
Potato Topping
2 Large potatoes
20g Butter
30ml Milk
Salt and pepper
100g Grated Cheese

Shepherds Pie minced lamb ground beef

Method
Stage One
Brown the minced meat in a little oil in a deep pot.
When the meat is browned and any lumps are broken up, reserve it in a separate dish.
Fried Onion Carrot Mushroom Shepherds Pie

Gently fry the diced onion on a low heat.
When the onion becomes fragrant and translucent, add the crushed garlic.
Add the bayleaf and the chopped mushroom.
Add the finely grated carrot and allow the mix to fry.
Ground Beef Browned For Shepherds Pie

Return the browned meat to the pot.
Combine the gravy mix with a small amount of water in a bowl.
Add the tomato paste, Worcestershire sauce and gravy mix to the pot.
Add a cup or two of water or stock.
Allow the meat mixture to simmer for fifteen minutes.
Mashed potato Ground Beef Shepherds Pie

Stage Two
In the meantime peel and boil the potatoes.
When they are soft, drain them.
While they are still warm, mash them with the addition of the milk, butter, salt and pepper.
The mashed potato can be slightly wetter than usual as some moisture will evaporate in the oven.
Cottage Pie Mashed Potato shepherds Pie

Stage Three
Fill the cooked pastry shell with the warm meat mixture.
Segment by segment, cover the meat mixture with the mashed potato
Spread the potato as evenly as possible, ensuring it goes right to the edges.
Sprinkle the top of the pie with grated cheese.
Baked Leftover Homemeade Shepherds Pie Recipe

Bake it at 180°c for 10 minutes or until the pie begins to brown on top.
Serve with tomato relish, tomato sauce or ketchup. Cheers!
Spicy Homemade Shepherds Pie Recipe


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Comment by Morgan Bell

June 13th 2008 13:12
i asked my mum this once and she got confused and said "well one is made with beef and one is made with shep" hahaha

dont ask me what shep is lol

Comment by Anonymous

July 9th 2008 02:45
Oh my god.... you do not use pastry in either Cottage or sheperds pies. Just mash on top. This is offensive to English people who would hate it made this way , I think you just made it up. But yes cottage is beef mince and Sheperds is lamb mince... its obvious really when you think about it.

Comment by GlenB

July 10th 2008 05:15
The Oxford Dictionary defines a pie as a 'dish of meat or fruit covered in with paste & baked.'
Herrings Dictionary of Classical and Modern Cookery notes 'Pie: food baked in deep dishes, covered with a crust, or surrounded entirely by a dough crust or with the crust open. English style pies are baked in fireproof China or glass dishes and always covered with a crust...Meat pies ar invariably baked in deep dishes and covered either with short pastry or puff pastry.'
In my professional opinion the rustic version of shepherds pie without pastry fits the definition of a pie, barely, as the potato topping could be said to comprise the crust.
That is why I refer to several variations in the post, bearing in mind that cuisine is in a constant state of evolution.
I would like to take the credit for making it up but pies have been around since before my time.
Instead of saying 'you do not use pastry in shepherds pie', you should speak for yourself in the first person, i.e. 'I do not use pastry', whch is fine by me.
I know you don't speak for all English people as my Dad is not offended, he loves my cottage pie.
Maybe you have only ever known the rustic version (which presents like slop on a plate), but that doesn't mean that there aren't variations you are unaware of.
What are your credentials, anonymous?

Comment by iRool

March 21st 2009 03:08
Hi.
Shepherd's pie or Cottage pie shouldn't be made with pastry.
It's just wrong.
Yes it may present like slob on a plate, but I'd rather have that then a slice of yours.
I do not care for your Oxford definitions.
The majority of English people would agree with me on that.
The English language is quite complex but, simply put, we refer to anything with an edible 'lid' as a pie.

Comment by Anonymous

February 19th 2011 23:22
Using a crust is a first for me. Not the traditional method, to be sure.

Comment by Anonymous

July 18th 2011 17:12
Hi.
Shepherd's pie or Cottage pie shouldn't be made with pastry.
It's just wrong.
Yes it may present like slob on a plate, but I'd rather have that then a slice of yours.
I do not care for your Oxford definitions.
The majority of English people would agree with me on that
.
I agree but where are the baked beans ??

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